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Separation of Church and Hate
A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds
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NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER * In the spirit of George Carlin and Christopher Hitchens, the son of a former Catholic nun and a Franciscan brother delivers a deeply irreverent and biblically correct takedown of far-right Christian hatred—a book for believers, atheists, agnostics, and anyone who’ll ever have to deal with a Christian nationalist.
For more than two centuries, the United States Constitution has given us the right to a society where church and state exist independently. But Christianity has been hijacked by far-right groups and politicians who seek to impose their narrow views on government, often to justify oppressive and unequal policies. The extremists who weaponize the Bible for earthly power aren’t actually on the side of Jesus—and historically they never have been. How do we fight back against those acting—literally—in bad faith?
Comedian and broadcaster John Fugelsang finally offers the answers. In this informative, perspective-shifting book, Fugelsang takes readers through common fundamentalist arguments on abortion, immigration, LGBTQ rights, and more—exposing their hypocrisy and inaccuracy through scripture, common sense, and deeply inappropriate humor. It offers practical tips on how to debate your loved one, coworker, or neighbor on the issues that divide us using that Bible they claim to follow.
But Fugelsang’s message is about more than just taking down hypocrites. It’s about fighting for the love, mercy, and service that are supposed to make up the heart of Christianity. Told with Fugelsang’s trademark blend of radical honesty, comedy, and deep political and religious knowledge, Separation of Church and Hate is the book every American needs today. It’s a rallying cry for compassion and clarity for anyone of any faith who’s sick of religion being used as a cloaking device for hate.
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Separation of Church and Hate
John Fugelsang
Introduction
Separation of Church and Hate is a probing, insightful, and witty look at the ways that Christian nationalists misconstrue the Biblical teachings of Jesus. Written by John Fugelsang, the son of a nun and a Franciscan priest, this book is a guide to taking down hypocrites and to fighting for the love, mercy, and service that are supposed to be at the heart of the Christian faith. Fugelsang writes with heart and humor as he pulls from both his background in comedy and his deep personal knowledge of Biblical teaching.
Discussion Questions
1. Early in the book, the author emphasizes the power of Jesus’s storytelling through parables, his style of communicating in a highly accessible way for the masses. How is this similar to or different from styles of sermonizing and communicating today?
2. Are you surprised by how brief Jesus’s teaching career was? If more people knew that Jesus only taught for three years, do you think that would change how his messages are perceived?
3. What was the Sermon on the Mount? Does the author shine light on any details of this famous speech that you find surprising?
4. The author references Rev. Dr. Susan Thistlethwaite several times. At one instance, he quotes her, saying, “ ‘Jesus’s teachings were codified under oppressive Roman rule . . . The ministry of Jesus is clearly a rejection of the state as religiously sanctified’ ” (26). How is this an example of irony?
5. On pages 48 and 49, the author lists differences between Jesus and the famous New Testament figure of Paul. At the end, the author states that “like most Christians, Paul was a flawed human and not, in fact, Jesus. Paul put his hang-ups into the work, and Jesus’s movement inherited them” (49). Why do you think some Christian nationalists have embraced the teachings of Paul over the teachings of Jesus?
6. Do you agree with the author that the opposite of faith is certainty? The author names figures who exemplify this throughout the book. Can you think of anyone else who embodies this statement in their faith and their politics
7. In the chapter “Master-Race Christians of the Twenty-First Century, and How to Debate Them,” the author challenges the popular belief that the United States was created to be a strictly Christian nation. After reading this, how would you argue with a Christian nationalist relative? What specifically would you cite to try to convince them to question their stance?
8. When debating a Christian nationalist, the author suggests that one “engage gently. Debate if need be. Stay relaxed, don’t be intimidated, and try to frame your points around asking questions” (61). Does this mirror Jesus’s style of debating and refuting the Pharisees? How might someone respond to an argument framed around questions as opposed to an argument framed around absolutes?
9. “Jesus’s longest recorded private conversation with anyone in the Bible” (91) is that in which he speaks with the Samaritan woman (a countercultural act in itself, as Jews and Samaritans were not supposed to interact). After this conversation, many people in the woman’s community came to follow Jesus. What does this say about the power of a simple conversation, of taking the time to speak and to listen? In such a polarized society, how might you gradually move toward peaceful conversations with those who have different backgrounds?
10. John Fugelsang is a comedian engaging, in this book, with an urgent and divisive topic. Other than causing you to laugh aloud while reading, what joys and even advantages does a comedic stance bring to the conversation about Christian nationalism? Do you think you would have been impacted in the same way if this book were not written by a comedian?
11. Jewish law and Christian doctrine vary significantly, including on the topic of abortion and fetal viability. Do you see any parallels between the development and enforcing of Christian doctrine (Pope Pius IX and fetal viability, page 150, for example) and the development and enforcing of laws and right-leaning political ideals today?
12. Much of this book is, ultimately, about the character of Jesus—who he was, what he stood for, and how his teachings are misconstrued. After reading, do you think Jesus is a character many Americans, religious or not, should hold as a role model? Do you think communicating the actual teachings of Jesus would help America heal, or should we move away from spiritual/religious figures entirely?
About The Reader
John Fugelsang is the New York Times bestselling author of Separation of Church and Hate. He’s a Drama League–nominated actor, comedian, and broadcaster who’s hosted many TV shows and podcasts, including the acclaimed Tell Me Everything series on SiriusXM Progress. He’s gotten George Harrison to give his final performance on VH1, debated Jerry Falwell and David Duke, and made many appearances on MSNBC, FOX News, and CNN. He has been murdered on CSI and picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church. His epic PBS road trip film on the American Dream, Dream On, directed by Roger Weisberg, was named Best Documentary at the New York Independent Film Festival. Fugelsang lives in New York City with his family. His new book is Fake Christians.
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- Publisher: Simon & Schuster Audio (September 9, 2025)
- Runtime: 9 hours and 24 minutes
- ISBN13: 9781668113332
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"Talk show host/comedian John Fugelsang dedicates this important and timely book to his parents, a Carmelite nun and Franciscan monk who left their orders but remained dedicated to the teachings of Christ. Fugelsang’s warm, companionable voice perfectly conveys his concern that right-wing forces are using the Bible as a prop to justify cruelty, hatred, and absolute power—the very opposite of Jesus’s message. He offers Scripture, verse, and humor to help listeners respond knowledgeably to those who are using religion to spread misinformation and pain. His calming voice reminds us of the compassion, kindness, and tolerance in Jesus’s message and offers hope to those who need ways to talk back to the loud, self-righteous voices of anger and hate currently around us."
– AudioFile Magazine
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